they need to be used. that gets us to plan the. how do you get sanctions to work if they believe they would -- that we would never use military force? how do you get any when you are trying to persuade to change their thought process if they believe the upside and the downside to not come together? if you are the prime minister of israel, how long do you wait darks -- how long do you weigh? everybody in the room i could see raised their hand. when they say today they do not want to make a weapon, we believe they are lying. ok. when secretary clinton, excuse me, says she thinks the sanctions are working, she may be right. they have not been used fully yet. there are tools available that were not available one month ago. let's see what happens. if they fail, here's what i believe should be militarily available. if you use military force against them coming have opened the -- opened pandora's box. nobody knows. i think if they get a nuclear weapon you have emptied pandora's box. that is why we are here at lunch. at least we are talkin